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		<title>A step back?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Armando Padilla</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[PHP Development]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like most of you know I&#8217;ve been interviewing with a few companies lately and during one of the interviews the interviewer expressed something to me that i thought I was the only one thinking.  My thought, &#8220;wow i totally know what you mean&#8230;but i shouldn&#8217;t agree with you because you might think im kissing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like most of you know I&#8217;ve been interviewing with a few companies lately and during one of the interviews the interviewer expressed something to me that i thought I was the only one thinking.  My thought, &#8220;wow i totally know what you mean&#8230;but i shouldn&#8217;t agree with you because you might think im kissing your ass to get the job&#8221;.  We were talking about the Zend_Form library of the Zend framework.</p>
<p>The Zend_Form component allows developers to use helpers to create forms.  This is much like the form helpers for Ruby on Rails.  It has a selector helper, password helper and all the form types that someone might eventually use in a form.  With all these positive tools what on earth might be my grip with the Zend_Form?  Easy, html/xhtml shouldn&#8217;t be handled why a backend developer.  With this component we basically take a step back from keeping html/designers away from the backend and backend developers away from taking on another responsibility, creating dynamic forms.</p>
<p><a href="http://smarty.php.net" target="_blank">Smarty</a>, <a href="http://phpsavant.com/yawiki/" target="_blank">Savant</a>, and the basic mvc pattern was set up to facilitate the need to keep such separations intact.  HTML coders wouldn&#8217;t want to deal with PHP code, so nice looking template libraries such as Smarty and Savant were created to hide these tags from HTML.  Now with the introduction of Zend_Form, this idea goes out the window.  I&#8217;m not implying that Zend_Form isnt a good thing, but is it a necessary component? As developers,  we have already crossed this delimma in the architect web road.  The outcome? We realized that separation is best.</p>
<p>Could the Zend_Form library have been created to compete with Ruby on Rails?</p>
<p>Armando Padilla</p>
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